Do you ever share who you are?
One of the stories I sometimes tell about Ludwig Wittgenstein has to do with the time in the winter of 1936/37 when he went around apologizing to his friends for having failed to tell them he was Jewish. Specifically, he was apologizing for having allowed them to think that only one of his four grandparents was Jewish when in fact the ratio went the other way. The Nuremberg Laws were in force in Germany; these niceties of number mattered. (It should be noted that Wittgenstein's three Jewish-born grandparents had all converted as adults to Catholicism and his one non-Jewish grandparent was the matrilineal one: no beit din in Austria would have ruled him or his siblings Jewish. Nazi Germany didn't care. The surviving family got out after the Anschluss because of their money, not their Catholic education.) It was part of a larger pattern of confession that Wittgenstein was working out that winter, some for lies of omission and some for actions of which he was ashamed, and my impression is that none of his friends found it actually changed their opinions of him except insofar as some of them were not impressed by his ideas of a convenient time to come over.
Wittgenstein, of course, apologized almost constantly for being alive, which is why I personify the same tendency in myself as Tiny Wittgenstein, the gloomy little shoulder philosopher with his kite-wings and leather jacket whom
selkie periodically traps inside a jam-jar so I can get something done; I find it even more relatable than his well-documented love for detective fiction and the musicals of Carmen Miranda. One of his other apologies during that confessional winter was for having let people think he had no sexual experience of women. That one fascinates me because I can't tell whether he intended to correct the assumption that he was sexually inexperienced or the assumption that he was experienced only with men, but either way it was again an apology for not having disclosed fully the particulars of himself—for existing under false pretenses.
I hope my friendlist appreciates that I haven't rung anyone up to come by and explain in person that actually I am descended in part from early American colonists, even though I feel really weird about it.
The continuity of family I was raised with was my mother's side. When I speak of my grandparents, I mean her parents. At night when I couldn't sleep, my mother would tell me the long, winding story of immigrations and migrations and marriages as far back as she knew, starting in a scatter across Eastern Europe and eventually converging, not in New York City where her parents were born in separate neighborhoods of Brooklyn, but in Iowa City where they met at the same graduate program for psychology and eloped. (An American Jewish love story, nu?) If I stayed awake, she would tell me of their travels, and of her own, and of meeting my father—this time in New York—and moving first to Philadelphia and then to Boston, where somewhat to their surprise they remain today. My father's father's side has an extremely traceable name, but we knew more about their history in Wales and Ireland (not in our case Austria) than we did about their movements here, since my father's father was born in San Francisco before 1906 and when your birth certificate is lost in an earthquake and fire you can tell people any damn thing about yourself that you please. My father's mother's side was a lacuna. Very recently, however, my father got into their genealogy and in consequence I am now looking at a scanned page attesting to the presence of her family in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1636. This summer we determined that one of the branches of
spatch's ancestry went back to the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1639. We knew already about the ancestor who founded Newburyport, the ancestor who was involved in the Salem witch trials—I found the link to the Reverend Nicholas Noyes sufficiently weird that I wrote a poem about it. Now we're trying to figure out if we're related.
It is not a matter of innocence. I was born in America, into the history of America, and that means I benefit from its genocides and its slaveries whether my ancestors were on the spot for them or not; my responsibility to the present and the future of this country is the same. But I am used to thinking of myself as descended from people on the margins of one sort or another and for at least a quarter of myself that is not true. It feels a little alien. In other words, I am much more unsettled to find myself with a strain of the Colonial-era WASPs Lovecraft so fetishized than I would be by any equivalent revelation of fish people, which is not news to me in the abstract, but in the personal means I write about it by way of Wittgenstein, who at least knew about his ancestry all along, even if he did get hit rather suddenly with what it meant.
I suppose I should watch a Technicolor musical to complete the metaphor, but I have a crushing headache and suspect I will instead go to sleep.
Wittgenstein, of course, apologized almost constantly for being alive, which is why I personify the same tendency in myself as Tiny Wittgenstein, the gloomy little shoulder philosopher with his kite-wings and leather jacket whom
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I hope my friendlist appreciates that I haven't rung anyone up to come by and explain in person that actually I am descended in part from early American colonists, even though I feel really weird about it.
The continuity of family I was raised with was my mother's side. When I speak of my grandparents, I mean her parents. At night when I couldn't sleep, my mother would tell me the long, winding story of immigrations and migrations and marriages as far back as she knew, starting in a scatter across Eastern Europe and eventually converging, not in New York City where her parents were born in separate neighborhoods of Brooklyn, but in Iowa City where they met at the same graduate program for psychology and eloped. (An American Jewish love story, nu?) If I stayed awake, she would tell me of their travels, and of her own, and of meeting my father—this time in New York—and moving first to Philadelphia and then to Boston, where somewhat to their surprise they remain today. My father's father's side has an extremely traceable name, but we knew more about their history in Wales and Ireland (not in our case Austria) than we did about their movements here, since my father's father was born in San Francisco before 1906 and when your birth certificate is lost in an earthquake and fire you can tell people any damn thing about yourself that you please. My father's mother's side was a lacuna. Very recently, however, my father got into their genealogy and in consequence I am now looking at a scanned page attesting to the presence of her family in the Massachusetts Bay Colony in 1636. This summer we determined that one of the branches of
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It is not a matter of innocence. I was born in America, into the history of America, and that means I benefit from its genocides and its slaveries whether my ancestors were on the spot for them or not; my responsibility to the present and the future of this country is the same. But I am used to thinking of myself as descended from people on the margins of one sort or another and for at least a quarter of myself that is not true. It feels a little alien. In other words, I am much more unsettled to find myself with a strain of the Colonial-era WASPs Lovecraft so fetishized than I would be by any equivalent revelation of fish people, which is not news to me in the abstract, but in the personal means I write about it by way of Wittgenstein, who at least knew about his ancestry all along, even if he did get hit rather suddenly with what it meant.
I suppose I should watch a Technicolor musical to complete the metaphor, but I have a crushing headache and suspect I will instead go to sleep.
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Possibly because it is Very You, and I like you a lot :-)
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Thank you.
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The people in that part of the family really, really wanted it to, which is part of the weirdness. But the point is taken.
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Which was meticulously tracked by that part of the family, so that I could actually write out the unbroken generations from 1636 Salem to me if I felt like it. It really is like having a Lovecraft ancestor spring out at you. I'm pretty sure this is where Charles Dexter Ward went wrong.
In general, though, I think it's amazing and fascinating to be able to trace one's ancestors back that far in a concrete way.
Yes. We could go back to my great-grandparents on my mother's side and even a couple of great-greats, but then the records ran out. Too many immigrations, changes of border, changes of name, absence of documentation to begin with. The stability of being able to trace everything is part of what's strange to me.
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Whoa.
How did your cousin find the visit?
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*shake shake shake shake*
His winter metabolism is slow but tomorrow I will lower a peppermint-stick Awful Awful and a nip of Pernod through one of the air holes.
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You take excellent care of him.
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Family history is weird, though, definitely, and not always comfortable. But I think when we're talking 16th C ancestors, it is pretty removed, and also, whatever else they may or may not have done, not your ancestors from the 1630s fault that modern people fetishize them. They probably just wanted to get out of England or wherever and Radical Religious Sect properly in peace dammit and would be also be weirded out.
(My surname has a probably-eventually related branch that went to New England in the 17th C & have a genealogical book written on them so I wind up being too scared to contact US cousins (despite being from the definitely-related-to-me emigrated in 19th C side) because they all start sounding as if we're part of some sort of magically Chosen People and are all related and aristocratic (we might be the former, it's possible, but nobody has yet found the connect between my branch and the early New England branch; the latter, we're not, we probably just owe our origins to a questionable or formidable medieval lady) and I never know how to deal with them! It is very strange, although also understandable, I suppose. People want to connect with things and be special, either with where they are, or somewhere else.
And on the fish side, that's a lot of sea journeys, all told, so you can't rule it out.
I trust that no one has yet fallen into a cesspit or died in a sewer, anyway. (My family take being common as muck way too literally for my liking.)
♥
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Er. As I was saying. A large part of me suspects that for many USians, tracing our ancestry back that far is a matter of... I don't know how to put this. The subliminal racism that suffuses white existence in this country. The fundamental belief that blood descent matters, whether or not it's explicitly to prove pure whiteness (my maternal side, with the Norman knight, was definitely the type to sweep any Black or Native ancestry under the rug), or to prove aristocracy, or to assuage any guilt over being white invaders and prove some kind of metaphysical right to be here (my paternal line, with the Scot of questionable baronhood, also went in for the "Indian princess" thing i.e. claiming descent from a Native chief). There's a lot of echo-chamber impetus to assume we're all related and aristocratic, is what I'm saying. ;P
(Also to pass along tall tales about one's ancestors. Some people take it rather humorously, with tales of horse thieves and pirates; some get entangled in proving their ancestors were ideologically Correct, whether that be in fighting for slavery during our Civil War or being deported for Jacobitism rather than anything less noble. Admittedly the questionably baronial Scot did arrive here right around 1750 so the suspicion that he had Jacobite leanings is not entirely unfounded, but it's also not documented at all, so he may merely have been a sheep-stealer or just trying to get out of an increasingly inhospitable region. He was Border, not Highland, so you can see why I take that also with a grain of salt.)
Um. I'm rambling again. What I was trying to say, I think, is that genealogy in this country definitely has a major helping of hagiography involved, and I definitely understand feeling odd about it. My people have been here a long time, but I can't prove whether any of them personally owned slaves or not. Does it matter? Not really. Would I feel very strange to see documentation that they did? Definitely. I may not actually believe that the sins of the fathers are visited upon their children, but you don't grow up USian without getting some of that ingrained Puritanism, I think. Perhaps if your family actively combats thr tendency, but still.
Anyway. That was a lot. I will leave you with the anecdote I was trying to get to in the "tall tales" paragraph before I got distracted, which is that I have seen, in a published book, a photograph of the sword with which one of the Norman knight's descendants supposedly slew a dragon. ^_^
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We have two stories like that on my mother's side. In one case we know what was behind the change of name and scenery; the other successfully made it disappear.
I see how it slides things around strangely. I do sympathize.
Thank you.
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I know almost nothing about my Latvian ancestry which saddens me deeply.
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I hope you can find some way to track at least the names.
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True statement: my paternal grandparents were immigrant factory workers whose first language was Yiddish (I've seen the census record).
True statement: my father was a judge, and when I was applying to college as an undergraduate, I listed him on Yale's application form because he made me a "legacy" applicant.
Either of those, by itself, implies a somewhat different story. They are both part of the story of my life, because I grew up with four living grandparents, all of whom I saw regularly. (Which, come to think of it, is another true statement which suggests things about who I am and where I come from.)
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Understood.
(Did any of the Yiddish come down to you? Because that is part of the story of my life.)
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I’d been meaning for a while to ask whether your grandfather who saw the opening night of The Cradle Will Rock was the same one who accidentally exploded a baseball during a university convocation — I take it from this he was?
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Yes! Same person. Also crunched numbers for the research published as that evergreen classic, Adorno et al.'s The Authoritarian Personality (1950), which I did not know until last year.
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Legit!
(I just feel weird about it because I think of myself as an outsider, not because I think of my people as outsiders. Rather the opposite.)
I understand that distinction.
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I have the documentation that would allow me to join the Daughters of the American Revolution, if I wanted, though that type of ostentatious ancestor-praising doesn't appeal to me. (Though I've heard gossip that the DAR in NYC had a violent split into two groups: one politically conservative and mostly white, the other liberal and mostly people of color, which is fascinating enough that I'd almost join just to find out more.)
I do think it's fascinating that other countries don't seem to have quite the same relationship to their ancestors as Americans do. For example, I've never seen a Russia person claim to descend from serfs and/or feel guilty for their family owning serfs, even though that was abolished only in the 1860s. I've never seen French people arguing about their responsibilities based on what side their ancestors took in the French Revolution. Is it because it was easier for descendants of the two groups to blend, while American tragedies tended to leave their descendants with ethnic markers? Or some other reason? Do I maybe just not know enough French or Russian people, and in fact this is a thing that gets argued about?
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Yes; I think it does matter, because the country really isn't and never was a melting pot, but I don't think it always manifests with the expected markers.
(Though I've heard gossip that the DAR in NYC had a violent split into two groups: one politically conservative and mostly white, the other liberal and mostly people of color, which is fascinating enough that I'd almost join just to find out more.)
Oh, wow. That is fascinating and if there's a way to find out more without joining, I'd love to know about it. (I hadn't even considered the possibility of eligibility in the DAR. I definitely think I do not care that much.)
Is it because it was easier for descendants of the two groups to blend, while American tragedies tended to leave their descendants with ethnic markers? Or some other reason? Do I maybe just not know enough French or Russian people, and in fact this is a thing that gets argued about?
I don't know! I agree that the intersection with race feels relevant, as does the weirdly unfinished quality of the Civil War; I would wonder also in the case of the U.S. if it has to do with the massive and violent uprooting of memory through genocide, so that everyone gets very anxious about constructing a past more or less explicitly intended to replace the previous continuity—filling a void we all know wasn't really vacant to begin with.
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As you say, there is no innocence. As human beings, we're guaranteed to have ancestors who've done--or been complicit in, or benefited from--terrible things. But that's not the whole of who we are, and it's not our destiny.
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That's true, although so is all the history since then.
As human beings, we're guaranteed to have ancestors who've done--or been complicit in, or benefited from--terrible things. But that's not the whole of who we are, and it's not our destiny.
I really don't worry that it is! It's just a strange piece of thinking that you have a general idea of your history and then here's access to an entirely different kind of story if you want it. Which I don't, but there's no point in pretending it doesn't exist, either, if that makes sense.
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I knew the general lines of that, but not the details, and now I may want to compare notes.
You of course, set many of your beautiful stories in New England and now it turns out you have ancestry here.
That's just as strange to think about. Boston was always where my parents accidentally stuck based on my father's college and grad school and my mother's job: it was a city with no connections except the ones we made. I was born here and I learned to live it from the outside. I don't know what to do with New England if it's ancestral. It feels Lovecraftian again—coming home to spawn.
(If Arisia puts me on "Using New England in Speculative Literature," at least I know what I'm talking about.)
Maybe someone in your family was an Antinomian or a Regicide? We can always dream.
They came from Farnham, according to my father's sources. I got bupkes beyond that!
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A stranger came ashore.
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One thing that going to school with people with long geneaologies taught me was to be prouder of my ancestors than any DAR.
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You're welcome. For the record, as far as we have been able to determine, I do not turn out to be related to
One thing that going to school with people with long geneaologies taught me was to be prouder of my ancestors than any DAR.
You should be! I have somehow not found it necessary to explore the potential of my eligibility in the organization.